Annual General Meeting 2017 minutes

AGM Feb 13 2017

Meeting commenced 19:07, adjourned 20:50pm.



GB – Lewisham Tenants Fund (LTF)







Previous years AGM meeting minutes were agreed.

MK – R was found not to be eligible as Chair, another meeting was held in December, elections for Chair and Vice Chair took place.

RJ – proposed we accept the minutes.   Agreed by show of hands.

Annual report shared by RC.  Download it here.

GB – what is the projector for?

RC – sharing meeting agenda, meeting slideshows, film nights, shared with renters, etc.

RJ – re: major works, we’ve had a bill but no works are finished?

RM – was an estimate, no bills have been received

MK – work is still ongoing.

MK – we’ve attended lots of meetings re: Tidemill redevelopment. Directly affecting our residents, SL has been helping, meeting with Family Mosaic – developer 27/02/2017

YD  – will they knock down anything?

MK – no, but the impact of loss of light will greatly affect residents.

SL – Reginald Road block will be knocked down. Social housing quota will include residents that had been in knocked down buildings.

RJ  – building is large.  Has there been any consultation?

MK – yes, much consultation.  AT has a lot of info but isn’t here



MK – regular updates re: Tideway tunnel, we have a lot of contact with them, a meeting is scheduled for 07 March.  There will be a lot of drilling, notices are up re: Deptford Church Street.  Tunnel is very deep, under Farrer House lawn.  Trees on Crossfields Green are gone; Adam Platt.

TE – when will the green be cut off?  I’d like the raised beds

MK – will find out.  Greenwich Councillors go to these meetings, but no representation from Lewisham Councillors which is disappointing.

RJ – should the CRA write to Councillors?

GB – write to the Mayor to complain. Elections are coming up.


RM – online communication.  Has been brought up in panel meetings.  Andrew Potter says no residents will be left behind in regards to online communications.  The CRA is leaving its residents behind by using online communication.  The CRA needs a phone, if the committee will not give out their personal phone numbers.

SL – discuss as any other business

RJ – on Holden House green, we had 20 trees, but now 16 trees.  They say the light is bad (not enough light), so they cut them down.

MK – have talked about in walkabouts.  We are on the list to receive tree trimming.  The two new trees are low growing.

RJ  – can we stick this information on the notice boards?  I didn’t know about it.


Air quality

MK – air quality monitors are in the local area, one at APT.  They need wifi, aren’t mobile.  We are contributing as an estate. There are some around the area, near the high street as well.  The council has the data, we want Goldsmiths to have the data from the high street and Thames Tunnel monitors as well.


Browne House drains

SL – TW mapped all drains on the estate, most are now adopted by TW.  There are a few drains that have not been adopted, including Browne House and Frankham.  JP still chasing this.



TE – compost – veg peelings only. Bins in the wild garden area beside Browne House

SM – there was a compost near Cremer, in the land which has been given by LC.  Would like to build one

YD – do we have a contract with the gardens and estate?

MK – yes, we have a new contract

SM – the fence near my allotment has collapsed, should I repair it myself?

MK – apply to the CRA for gardening fund money

RJ – gardening and estate maintenance, people keep complaining. They were cutting above the iron bars, when the reason for planting was to have privacy and keep pollution out.  They stopped.

SL – want to keep the hedge high.

RM – wanted it lower to have more light.  Top should be cut straight across, not level with the ground, so the hedge looks better.  Need the height as well.

RJ – gardeners are not qualified gardeners, just labourers

GB – since LH has taken garden maintenance back in their control, they are actual gardeners.

TE – things are much better since LH took back in-house, e.g.,beds near Browne are treated better now


Annual Accounts

MK provides comprehensive financial update.

MK – Accounts for CRA and Pink Palace were separate but have now been consolidated. We have accounts for 18 months-worth of accounts for the PP. Income stated. Two lots of funding via LTF. Questions taken

RM – repairs should fix any issues with the PP

MK – they no longer do all repairs on community centres.

RJ – they used to, but they recharged for it.


Elections – EF

EF – All committee members now step down.  If you want to stand, you must be a tenant or leaseholder.  You must have no arrears.  You must be over 18.

RJ – if you receive a benefit, people have been told they cannot stand.  Is this true?

EF – no, that is not true.

RJ – last elections they said you couldn’t


Nominations for Chair

SL – nominate RC.


Vice Chair –

RM – nominate S

Ram – SL?

MK – R?

(no VC chosen)


MK. Unanimous.

Secretary –

No one stands.

RM – B?

RC as well – unanimous

VC, acting – JP

Area panel reps

SL – unanimous

Block reps

Wilshaw – RM, Claire

Cremer – Sarah

Congers –

Farrer – Nick

Browne – Jessica

Holden – Sue

Castell – Joao?

Finch –

Frankham – Brigitte


Other Business

Car Parking

PS – Builders are taking advantage.  Chosen ACE Security, which has done business with the councils.  What are the benefits?

MK – 1000 new residents in new developments with no parking

TE  – ACE parking system is awful, though we need parking controls

PS – ACE are an awful company.

MK – we have brought it up with local construction companies but they can do nothing.

EF – contractors do park here but they will leave the area when building works are done.  Residents will struggle to park when people move into the new developments

TE – parking controls are needed, but this company is the problem

RJ  – do you have proof that this company is corrupt?

PS – Why choose ACE?

EF – they are already on contract with LH on other estates.

PS – They need to make a profit.  They do not care about the estate.

TE – there is no grey area – the law is in their favour.  People will fall foul of bad practices from this company

PS – why choose this particular company?

EF – the parking company was chosen at management level.

PS – why was there no consultation this time?

RC – To summarise, we are not opposed to parking control,  but we are unhappy with the choice of parking management company

EF – you can have two permits per household out of permanent or visitor.  Will ask about workers permits

PS – PACE also manage parking. I have personal dealing with them and they are unscrupulous.

EF – we can monitor the situation via walkabouts.

RC – to summarise, what is the appeals process.  Can we choose another company if this one is considered unsuitable?

EF – Frankham house should be the same parking as the rest of the estate

RM – there are restrictions on size of cars parking in the estate

EF – parking should be enforced by March

RC – can the CRA contact ACE parking directly?

EF – we do monitor this.

JP – can we request via freedom of information, any complaints LH has received via other estates?

BC – re: the separated car parking, can we keep separate?

EF – Frankham has too many cars and not enough space, whereas the estate has more spaces.

PACE and ACE – same company


Emergency Repairs

Lights in Holden – were out for 3 days

RJ – light was cut off for 3 hours.  Was scary.

SL – called but was given no reference number, tweeted our councillor who emailed and called and got a reference number.  Lights came on on one side, but not the other two sides.  Lights are on tonight. Seems like the fact that it was public helped to get repair done.  Emergency repairs don’t seem to cover lights in stairwells.

RM – water was leaking in a light, emergency repairs will not deal with it until an accident happens

SL – very slow response

MK – water pouring out from the water tank on the roof.  3 days of complaining, was subcontracted out.  What level of agreement do we have with them? What is their response time?  Wasteful, dangerous.  Has happened 3 times in 2017 already.

RM – overflows have happened for years.

BC– used to have the same problem at Frankham, LH changed contractors, and things have been much better since

SL – are we paying for each job when nothing is fixed?

YD – is there a list of all the companies that LH have contracts with?

SL – drains – family had a backed up toilet, TW should have been fixing drains but a local plumber was doing it.

EF – perhaps someone from repairs and maintenance can attend this meeting.  If not, they can provide a list of jobs they do.


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